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    September 27, 2012
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least cost, but let's make sure every citizen has access to the best care at the least cost. >> all right. richard carmona, gat to have you with us tonight. all the best. thanks so much. >> tha you, . ts eow edul "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, ed. thank you. and thanks to you at home staying with us for the next hour. we have nancy pelosi tonight here live for the interview. very excited about that. if this was the image of the week, across the country, for last week, the surreptitiously filmed mitt romney aressg wealthy republican donors in florida and telling them how no good and horrible half the country was, if that was the image of the week last week, then this would surely have to qualify as t image of the week this week. touchdown? no touchdo? touchdown? oh, no! right? the big nfl referee's scandal thing. the green bay packers getting totally robbed of a win on monday night football. that image from this week has crossed ov now from being just a sports story to beg an
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ica story. it's now even an american politics story. yesterday the republican governor of wisconsin, scott walker, who of course is most famous for stripping union rights in his state, scott walker actually came out in vor of bringing back the union refs tthe nfl. witboomng that doesn't matter much like education, screw the unions. but when it's something important like football, well, look for the union label, america. barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the refere issue. alren ngt the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, thst moment of all time in ovp es tween the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and
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that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are on 187 days before traing camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! wheas e pas e america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of theeople of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thomps, governor of the great stofco, ereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations.
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thank you. >> tommy thompson, from the great state of wiscons -- declaring packers day. he was the governor of wiscons since then, he keeps running for office. he ran for president for a hot second, trying to convince people he was the other guy named thompson, not named fred. now he is the republican nominee for the united stas te wisi tommy thompson right now is losing that race. the last five polls out of wisconsin all show tommy thompson losing, including one poll out today that shows him losing by 12oints. ileernenl" fore th today posts this video of tommy thompson this summer telling a tea party group what his plans are for medicare and also for medicaid.
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ce candicthis. like i did welfare, and who better than me, that's already finished one of the entitlement programs, to come up with programs to do away with medicaid and medicare? >> who better than me, to do away with mecare we're going to have to wait until the next round of polling in wisconsin to see how the tape of tommy thompson saying he wants to get rid of medicare affects his numbers, in a state that's alreadynclined against him 12 points. what do you think the next round's going to look like. mr. thompson's democratic opponent in this senate race is e shf tiigy baldwin. now in this country is how the presidential race is going. but the race to control the united states senate most days is a me amazing story. or a more amazing amalgamation of stories. today tommy thompson is on tape saying, who better than him to get rid of medicare! but something like that can't even w the shockg eltion taf wewanoen it's up against other competitors from this week, like
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this tape. [ chanting ] this is thtape we aired here last night of five staffers for mahus bl sor scott brown, as well as other republican party operatives, chanting fake native american war whoops and doing tomahawk chops, to mock native americans. the abc affiliate in boston identified the scott brown staffers here as his deput chief of staff, s constituent services couil, his state his special assistant. also, there is a massachusetts state republican party guy here, who works in conjunction with the brown campaign. scott brown came out shortly after he heard about this tape yesterday to say that he did not condone the behaviorf his strs he. yoowisno exactly an isolated incident. i mean, senator brown right now is basing his re-election campaign for the senate on the issue of elizabeth warren's ethnicity and what he thinks it really is. >> professor warren claimed that
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she was a native american, a pers olondyon see, she's not. that being said, she checked the box and she had an opportunity, actually, to make a decision throughout her career, when she apply to penn and harvard, she checked the boclaiming she was a veri and you know, clearly she's not. >> clearly. "clearly she's not." that was how he opened up his rst debate against elizabeth warren. the very first ad that scott browaired after that first deba was not aad addressin any specific issues in the country or in the senate race, but rather an ad attacking elizabeth warren on the basis of race. scott brown has had a campaign website up for weeks in which he describes elizabeth warren as a, quote, fake indian. s it's the language he useon after all of that, scott brown said yesterday while he did not condone the tomahawk chop, war
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whoop, making fun of native americans behavior by his senate staffers, he said thate did think an apology was necessary. and that apology was necessary otowscbed elizabeth n. warren yesterday as offensive. she is the one that's offensive here, according to scott brown. these are his stfers. senate staffers. we pay their salary. today the chief of the cherokee nation put out this statement. "the chekee nation is dippointed in and denounces the disrespectful actions of staffers and supporters of massachusetts senator scott brown. the conduct of these individuals goes far beyond what is appropriate and proper in political discourse. use steotal whoop chants and tomahawk chops are offensive and downright racist. the individuals involved in this unfortunate incident are high-ranking staffers in both the senate office and the brown campaign.
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a aihaulloand condone such offensive and racist behavior must be called to task for their actions. i will not be silent when individuals mock and insult our people and our great nation. we need individuals in the united statesenate who respect native americans and have an rsin tl es for that reason, i call upon senator brown to apologize for the offensive actions of his staff and their uneducated, unenlightened and racist portrayal of native peoples. " late tonight, after saying nothinall day long in response to that, scott brown's campaign, la tonight, finally put t a the unacceptable behavior of his after. his spokesperson added, quote, this kind of conduct will not be tolerated. scott brown, to be clear, has never disproven that elizabeth warren has native american ancest, right? od avie aye anybody's ever that she is not native american. the whole basis for the brown campaign making fun of indian people, right, the whole basis for all of this making fun of
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native american people by scott brown and by his campaign is that he says he can tell by looking at her that she is way too white-looking to really be okr nyeriv american ancestry. to be clear, that is the chief of the cherokee nation on the left-hand side of your screen and that elizabeth warren on the right-hand side of your screen. scott brown says, look at her. i can tell she'sot native eric. scott brown, as the incumbent senator in massachusetts, had been leading in the polls. the republican-leaning rasmussen poll right now puts the massachusetts senate race at a tie. about four of the last five polls in the state show allenger elizabeth warren beating scott brown in maachutt the challenge was not supposed to be scott brown. he's supposed to be great at campaigning. the only problem for him in this race was supposed to be the hewind he was going to get from being in such a democratic-leaning state. well, now thks to the way he's running his campgn, the hewindhe'sacinnoge arbehe only factor
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that ought to worry republicans in this race. in missouri, though, the opposite dynamic has been at work. the democratic incumbent in missouriclaire mccaskill, she was thought of having almost no chance of holding on to her seat this year because of the republican headwinds ithe e isi. because they have grown so strong since she was elect there had in 2006. that, since the claire mccaskill race, was before republicans decided this guy would be their nominee to secede her. >> if it's a legitimate rape fema bhaystr to shut that whole thing down. >> republican u.s. senate candidate todd akin of missouri explaining the difference between legitimate rapes and other rapes. you know, things called rape, but, you know. thinstuflikehat r his whole career. but now that he's a u.s. senate candidate, you're not supposed to articulate things that sound that crazy. so when he said that last month,
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everybody went nuts, including the right. his own party decided heould nde murr be the u.s. sena the other candidate from missouri, roy blunt, said at the time, todd needs to get out of this race. thd of the senate campaign committee for the national republican appeared said of todd akin, "we're done." just about everybody in mnndl , tholitics, fromitt way down to the scott browns of the world called for todd akin to get out of that missouri senate race. that was a month ago, right before the republican coention, but now, apparently, now we know how much time w bls dedars off . they're over all of their concerns about todd akin. here he is doing a press conference last week with newt gingrich. newt gingrich there showing his support for todd akin. todarepublican senator jim demi and former presidential candidate rick storum threw thsut ndodd in. republican senator roy blunt, remember him?
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the guy who said todd akin has to get out. he put out a statement today saying that now he is supporting todd akin. the state republican party, which had expressed grave public doubts about akin after hi mmen a somrapebe letima last month, they now say they're all in for todd akin as well. even the national republican party's senate campaign committee, the guys who said we're done when they were talking about todd akin, apparently they are thinking now of not being done with him anymore. l hoepcaeaow just how fended were about the legitimate rape comments. they were offended enough until the deadline passed and they couldn't get off the ballot and they couldn't replace him anymore, and now they've decided they're already with the whole legimate rape thing. the outrage justore f. ddn beea t month. favored by double digits in that senate race before this whole thing started. but the latest polling out of missouri now shows claire mccaskill ahead. she is now back to having two big headwinds, right? one is that the republicans are
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expected to win the state at the presidential level. of t doghouse. o now that the outrage has worn off, now he's going to be benefiting from tons of conservative money from all over the country to elect the legitimate rape gu the presidential race is continuing to trend the way it has been in recent days, whi is that it's trending in barack obs far. new polling by "the new york times" and quinnipiac has president obama up in florida by nine points. in ohio, president obama up by ten points. in pennsylvania, that poll has president obama up by 12 points. there are other smaller and more locapolls th have the nnanndriodightly sller in but those other polls also show president obama winning in the swing states. a new ppp poll in iowa today shows president obama leading in iowa by seven points. a grievous marketing poll in colorado showing president obama leading in colorado by four tilyest a seen his lead rebound in recent days. in the gallup daily tracking point, he initially got a
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six-point bounce out of the democratic convention. that lead evorated in the days that followed, but now as you can see, preside obama has regained that six-point leads ifjuid cnt all over again. with just 41 days left until the election, a snapshot of the race is very clear. in fact, we do these polls every day and it's almost starting to seem stic at the presidential level. the swing ste pos th we do every day, pretty much the map always look like this. president obama leading in all of the swing states or at least leading in almost all of them. a standard caveat, of course, is that anything could change. t the longer that it goes on without changing, as long as it starts to look like this is calcifying as the state of the race, especially now that more an hf thcoy lr voting, half the swing states, already voting right now, while that is happening, if that part of the race is staying and this is the way it's going to look, at times the more interesting part of the election is not just the race for the white house, but the race for control of the senate. and maybe even for control of the house.
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the s gefld what's happening at the top of the ticket, right? at a certain point, though, if it stays like this in the pridential race, now's the time to start asking, these outside groups who have been spending hundreds of millions of dollars on the presidential race, behalf of mitt romney, look at those poll numbers and say,hy are we spding all mey? why are we sending good money after bad? is the race going to be written off by republican donors? the democrats are not only saying now that they are going to hold on to the senate, the democrats are now starting to talk about taking back the house, whi in l liliho would make nancy pelosi speaker of the house again. nancy pelosi is our guest, next. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is aeady saving us money, producinclear eltricy, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar.
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anenn ch, agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice presidential candidate, well, it clarified the debate for many people in thraces that we are active in. >> whatever it says about er pichet that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these past few elections. in '06 and '08, the democrats swung 52 seats in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majory in the house. thn , reic swung 61 seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, beltway common wdosays there lych temts can swing enough seats back to them to take the house back over. but some political scientists say, actually, that is a real
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possibility, that the democrats could take back the house. and the democrats themselves sounding increasingly confident that they might do it. and frankly, stranger things have happened, even very recently. joining us tonight for the interview is the democratic leader of the house of daea igrtoancy pelosi. haoue. thank you for coming. great to be here, always. >> democrats need 25 seats? yes, we have a drive for 25. >> you have said that you think the majority is with you. the momentum is with you. is that based on what's going on in the predentl ra, ors e thelha going on that makes you feel that momentum? >> well, both. we have been working very hard to get to a place to put the house in play. we did that by, say, late spring/early summer. but when august 11th, mark that date on your calendar, when ryan was chosen, that made a very big difference because medicare, medicare, medicare, the three most important issues in the campaign, in alphatical order, that issue was clarified, focus was on it, and we could not lose
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thbaboede, cause if we do, forget democrats, forget republicans, medicare is gone. we'll be back to a time before lyndon johnson. we will be putting seniors at the mercy of the insurance companies by ging em a voucher, but not a guarantee. and the severing of that guarantee, the architect of that, is paul ryan, his being chosen made a big difference for you. >> and you feel like the choice of paul ryan made essentially every other campaign issue, at least, fall away for anyse candidate who chooses to run on that. that that's a clear enough issue on that issue that nothing else really has to matter? >> well, on house races, especially in presidential year, you only have a small opportunity to get people's attention and to hit them with your best sh, aso what yr d has been an issue that hits every generation. it's about the seniors, of course, it's about their families, and how all of them can have economic as well as
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health security, because their seniors are taken care of. wee very excited about it. but i wish that itere not a race about medicare, because the fas,icisth ballot. my name is on the ballot, the president's name is on the ballot, many people's names are on the ballot. and if we do not win the house, and of course if the president doesn't win, but we feel pretty good about the president's winning, that would be very much at risk. >>teof yhi that shapes the map and opportunities for house democrats, are there places in the country that you feel like you might, honestly, not be all that competitive this year. but specifically on that issue, specifically because mitt romney picked paul an, there's geographical ptsth tre crca compete better. >> well, first of all, the fact that president obama is on the tick will get more people to the polls. many of the races, the battleground states that you showed earlier, are just a few states. we're in more states than the present.
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so we're basically on our own, texas, california, new york, illinois, maryland, washington state, arizona, although it may become a battleground state, because the opportunity might be there for the president. and we expect to win about 20 seats in t states i st name then we go where the president is, florida, ohio, colorado, iowa, nevada, states like that, to take us, oh, i want to go beyond 25, i would like to have 35. but the -- it's a very discreet race some states rp -- have pest an w back. there are 66 districts that are held by republicans that were won by president obama and about a third of those were also won by john kerry. and so we think there's real opportunity. now, mind you, people didn't say we were gointo w theouse 06n iradis attempt. yet. it took like another few weeks before they started to see the handwriting on the wall that the montum was with us, and at
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the polls, and that these individual districts were coming our way. rino'r a a average of five, five points ahead, average in the generic. some eight, some two, average of five, that five is enough to win the house. d like six or seven percentage points difference in the polling for us to take -- >> in terms of the generic ballot, people are asked, do you prer a repubn a cr ces >> in individual districts. >> one of the issues that gets a lot of attention in terms of how it might affect the presidential race is the issue of voter suppression, becoming more difficult toegister to vote an v if you have a moment, we have actually some new news on that out of florida. can you hold on a moment. how that's going to affect not just the presidential race, t also the race to control the congress. we'll be back th demratic leader nancy pelosi right after this. t ryo crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it!
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check this out. thisast ngors ws tonight. bl gnor, rick scott, started a purge to get people off the voter rolls in florida. one of the floridian voters who was targeted in that purge was a man named uhroll araliga. he got a letter from the state of florida this spring ordering m to prove his citizenship within 30 days or lose his right to vote. asy er hsent in his proof of citizenship. today he was told by mr. rick scott's administration, that's not good enough, he's going to prove his proof of citizenship
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all over again. they're trying to purge him a second te. rick scott's election division has nt fridaounts another new list of voters it wants purged off the voter rolls now, less than six weeks before the election. his last purgeargeted 82% minority voter in avil democratic miami-dade county, 98% of the people who he tried to purge off the voter rolls as noncitizens, 98% of those who responded actually were citizens, but of coue 100% of the people targeted by the purge have been threatened by the state of florida about exercising their right to vote. and all the counties, it's not like they have athing else to do, right, 41 days before they needge11 monotenal
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votes cast and counted. back with us for the interview tonight is the democratic leader in the house of representatives, nancy pelosi. thank you again for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> what's happening here in florida is obvusly part of a an totlan purgnd states where republicans are in control in order to make it harder to vote this election. are you confident that democrats are heading that off well. >> here's what i said about that. don't onize, organize. av gt e shine a bright light on it, so the public knows the immorality of putting up barriers to voting. it's just plain wrong. but apart from that, okay, we know that's wrong. this is ridiculous, what he is doin but what we have to do is make sure that every person who is eligible to vote gets the i.d., goes through the motions, is registered to vote, and their vote is counted as cast. because this thing keeps going.
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counted as cast. that's very imrtant. it's part of what they're doing. suffoce thrwes with dless, unidentified special interest money, suck the air o of the air waves. suppress the vote with these regulations and laws that they have passe and the other way they suppress the vote is to help people -- it's no use even going, you're not going to be poisonous campaign.tnoff if you suffocate the airwaves, suppress the vote, poison the debate, people throw up their hands and say, i don't even know if want to participate in this. and when they walk away, right, thinking people walk away, t special interests achieve a or so we have to keep the campaign positive, about what our president could do, in the case of elizabeth warren, in case of our democrats, how this could be different and was different when we were in the majority, with a democratic president and a republic preside. soaiongo, organize.
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early voting is a good way to overcome some of the obstacles there, establishing. governor scott is ridiculous beyond words in what he is trying to do to his own people. they're afraid of the people. d htoprthid otheir votes. we have to overcome that. because by winning, we winning we can prove them wrong in their tactics. and by winning, we can -- i have a dare. win -- the first day we're there, disclose, i'm nancy pelosi, i approve this message. we have to have disclosure of where this money's coming from in campaigns. i have to say my name, but these multi, multi-billionaires don't have to say their name on an ad. end the constitution to overturn citizens united. it can be done. the public wantst. we have to takthe rst ore em public financing of campaigns. get rid of the role of money, and re-elect reformers. i don't even care if they're republicans or democrats or whoever, who are willing to stand up for our democracy that
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our founders sacrificed e government of the many, not the government of the money. and this is really important. because as long as they can control the mechanics of elections, they have an advantage. and we have to offset it. t we also ha to win, so that canngit. >> in terms of just the idea of dispiriting people that the campaigns mean anything, poisoning the debate, making people feel like it doesn't matter if i vote or not, one of the issues that i, just as a citizen, feel frustrated is not being addressed in the presidtial race, that i thk is somhing people care a who abis warhat we are in. we are in the longest war in american history. and you and i have talked in the past and in previous interviews, you once told me the political dynamics around the war in afghanistan are not particularly partisan. and just this last week, congressman bill young of florida, he chged his mind on the wa came out agast t war usidjuhie' killing kids that don't need to die. mitt romney didn't even put it in his nomination speech at the
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convention, but should ending the war before the president's scheduled timetable in 2014 be a matter of presidential discussion? shou it be a matter of debate for house candidates right now? is it a matter for congress to de? >> well, it is a matter of our national security, and how does this fit into that. the president is on a course to get this done. it doesn't mean it will take all of that time. but it will be done by that time. and th iprogss fm whe adn. you have to remember, when president bush was president, there was no plan. we had been there 6 1/2 years with no plan. we routed the taliban, we did not defeat them, and then we left and went to iraq. so president obama had to put a plan in place and a timetae to get itone. so it may not be as st as we woalket fact is, the cost of this war, in terms of our human treasure, the most important part, our young people, the casualties to their lives and to their physical well-being and their mental -- it's all physical, mental or not.
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tg s aceri do think that this should really understand that war, as a resolution of conflict, is an obsolete idea. and we should take the debate to a bigger place, a bigger place. i'll never get over the fact that predent bush took us into war on a false premise, that he kn wasalsethat his admistration knew was false, for a different agenda, and look how long we stayed in iraq. >> whether or not it ends up becoming an issue in the presidential race, is this a matter for congress to dece, in ter of when we leave, forehe eio a t election, or is it the president's call? >> well, it's a combination. because when we won in '06, one of the big issues was ending the war in iraq. and we went to see t president and we said, we're here, how do we end the war, and he said, at not going to happen. ane id us have two-thirds vote, you're at the mercy of. but let me say, this election, because of what we have been through, i want to make this one point.
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people are saying, the republicans had the nerve to say, are you better off than you were four years ago. and many pplhave- the arrus. and part of it is that still rem informants of what happened during the bush years. but just a week ago, in my office, the speaker's office, and the presence of the republican and democratic leader inhe h -adin house and senate, the chairman of the fed said to us after secretary bernanke described a terrible meltdown of our financial institution, the chrman of the fed said, if we do not act immediately, we will not have an economy by monday. this is the place that h tak us to. this is the place that president obama and house democrats tried to take us the from. this is the place that the republican majority has blocked any of president obama's initiatives to do more to help individual families our country. buw d pblen
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pose the question, are you better off, when the chairman of the fed, that day, four years ago, and one week ago, if we don't act immediately, we will not have an economy! an economy by monday. we certainly are better off, and as a coury, and now we have to maur e aocc house to work with the president, so that we can pass the jobs bill, that we can pass political reform. you can't separate -walter ruth said you can't separate the d ane ot. if you want the right politics for working families, you have to get to the polls. drive for 25. >> that about whether or not it is possible for the democrats to take the house is shifting with each continued day of very, very blue polls of the presidential race and down ballot.
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the mitt romney for president campaignesterday finally addressed something that we on this show haveeen talking about for months. something we first raised back in november. we have hing r th romney campaign to address this issue ever since then, but they've just been able to avoid talking abt it for months. until now. this week, mitt romney himself finally forced to address it. >> just the other day, you said the prident has been trying to fool people with his ads andis spches aboutour record. buctckhals takeissue with your ads. haven't you also played fast and loose with the facts from time
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to time? >> we've been absolutely spot-on. and anytime there's anything that's been a miss, we correct it or remove it. >> hmm. what he's describing there, removing or correcting false claims made by the camign once ree aalth is a process that a normal campaign does follow. that's what makes this statement so newsworthy. because the romney campaign hasn't been doing that. they haven't been removing their false claims from the record once they're pron to be false. which is a stran decion r mpaign operating at the presidential election. look at one of the first general election ads released by the romney campaign. this was released back in november of last year. >> provide relief for homeowners. it's going to take a new reion. e tngut economy, we're going to lose. >> "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose, lose, lose." that is how mitt romney's ad quoted president obama. here's what president obama actually said.
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>> senator mccain's campaign actuallyaid, and i quote, "if on w g tseing about the >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing that he was quoting someone else saying, and he was quoting it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, ere are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's real bieabae. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally, mitt romney got skewered for this, for building his first general election ad on a really obviously blunt lie. what did the romney campaign do about e whopper in that ad? did they correct it or remove as mi romney now says has always been hisampaign pocy? atisllon didn't it. campaign web page. not only did the romney campaign did not remove or correct that ad, romney defended it just as it was getting all attention for being a lie, remember? >> there was no hidden effort on the partf our campaign. it was instead to point out what's sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander. t ry 'torrect ooses, what. or remove the ad that had the lie in it about what president obama said about the economy.
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he said, essentially, i mean, what are you going to do about it. also, geese. he used the same dynamic at work with the other romney polical ad looking to make political hay out of the solyndra bankruptcy. this is from may. >> the inspector general said contracts were steered to thais n td family. point of fact, the inspector general did not say that. that is an empirical claim. it is empirically false. you can check stuff like that. which again the press was quick to point out. so has the solyndra ad with this whopper about the inspector general been corrected or removed? it has not. it is still right there on mitt romney's campaign web page. and then there's the now-infamous welfare ad from the romney campaign last month. >> president obama quietly eed the work requirement, gutting tis te reform.
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that did not happen. president obama did not strip the work requirement out of welfare quietly or otherwise. quite the opposite, in fact. which, again, has been pointed out ad nauseam by political reporters. but the romney campaign's response about getting caught lying about president obama's rrorove lies w noto mitt romney has said has always been done, that ad. be done, that ad is still there on their campaign web page. in fact the campaign responded by telling we're not going to ctckr campaign be dictated by when he was asked about the untrue welfare ad. >> any time there's anything that's been amiss we correct it or remove it. the president on the other and. >> even the welfare ad? >> absolutely. it has been shown time and again that the president's efforto take work requirement out of weare is a calculated move. >> the president has made no effort to take work requirements
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out of welfa. so even as he's claiming that the campaign corrects the record when it gets caught getting the facts wrong, mitt romney is repeating the exact falsehood that got him in so much trouble in the first place. campaigns get stuff wrong. mpaigns make claims in the at othmeet overstated or maybe they say things they know are wrong but then they get called on them and they have to apologize. that's norma that's politics. what's strange here is not that the romney campaign has made some false claims in the atste re iwhen they have gotten things wrong, when they've been called out for getting things wrong, they have not tried to fix it. when they have been shown to be making false claims. it doesn't cause them any stress. but even within thromney heder deing with ris
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problems like this. this may come from the way mr. romney was beaten in 2008. it may have left his campaign determined that he not get stuck with the flip flopper label again. even though they leave the ads with the lies in them up and sometimes mrroey goes on tv invents a brand new policy position he's never had before. after he does that, his staff follows behind him and quietly releasing statements taking back his quotes. when m romney was asked in an rvlaeeoue his immigration advisers. he said he could not confirm whether kris kobch was part of his team. and they yes, he's a romney campaign adviser. so he tells an interview he' never met with him but his campaign says what he said was not true. sahiapd m when mr. romney came out with a whole new policy position on abortion rights. >> i'm in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape anincest in the health of the
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life of the mother. >> he says he believes abortion should be allowed to protect a woman's health. afterwards the campaign sa th's not whahe bieve he doesn't actually support the legal right to have an abortion if you need one to protect your health as a woman. the same thing happened earlier this month when mr. romney came amreth a wholeewe >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. there are a number of things that i like that i'm going to put in place. one is to make sure that those with preexisting conditions can get coverage. >> i'm not getti rid of all of shetscopeorm. with preexisting conditions and
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his campaign came out afterwards and said he does not mean that. saying that mr. romney was not in favor of a law requiring that coverage. the same thing hpeneju ahe snl surprisingly said his red line of keeping iran from going nuclear is the same as president obama's red line. after mitt romney said that on tape that he believes his red line is the same as president obama's, his campaign quietly he doesn't really believe that. ey sd mae as g waaski the question was wrong and suggesting that it was the same p. and when mitt romney said yeah that was in fact the case he was just being agreeable or something. ekme thing happened again this mitt romney conceded another one of his frequent attacks on the president. he's been charging for months that president obama has raised
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taxes on middle class americans. but then he admitted on tape that president obama has not raised taxes. >> he's got one new idea, one thing he did not do in his first four yea which is to raise o mi romney admits that president obama has not raised taxes during his first term as president. he says that on tape and his campaign says afterwards, wh he said he does not believe that. they're not admiing that he misspoke. the sa thed the wrong word. they're saying he didn't mean what he clearly said. what seems to be happening here is that in the moment, when he's talking to an interviewer or speaking to an audience, he just says what they want to hear, even if it's not really his positi or can't remember what
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his position is supposed to be or if it not really what he believes. but his campaign can't have the flip flop be on the record. they're so sensitive to that label from 2008. so quietly they just erase the quote. ey hveidt.it bac they never admit that he might have said the wrong thing. they just try to erase from the record the wrong thing that he said. so it's two strategies. with the ads they just leave the false ads up. but when the candidate himself says it, they let him say whatever seems right to that audience right in front of him. they never say he apologizes or mix spoke but the campaign tries to change the record later. whatever you heard him say, he didn't really say that. so with this campaign you really do have a choice. which of these two ways of lying eygot lot picto lie? bo ask me what it's like when my tempupedic moves.
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